How in the world is America supposed to remain “the greatest country on Earth” when other nations are absolutely running circles around us when it comes to education? As you will see below, one survey found that 15-year-old students in China are almost four full grade levels ahead of 15-year-old students in the United States in mathematics. This is one of the most damning indictments of our education system that I have ever come across, and it is yet another clear indication that what we are doing is simply not working. Our children are not being given the tools that they need to compete in our modern society, and we have only ourselves to blame.
Perhaps you are thinking that the survey must be flawed somehow.
Well, this wasn’t some fluky survey that was only given to a handful of students. Every three years, the Program for International Student Assessment evaluates 15-year-old students all over the world in a variety of subject areas, and in 2018 approximately 32 million students.
When your sample size is 32 million students, I think that it is safe to say that the results of the survey should be taken seriously.
And what the survey discovered is that U.S. students continue to fall behind in math. In particular, we have fallen way, way behind the Chinese.
We used to have the best education system in the entire world, but now we have become a nation of drooling idiots that can’t even think straight.
China. No teacher's unions. Teachers get fired for incompetence. Students are punished for disrupting class. No affirmative action points for idiot minorities.
America.... - Up:46 Down:2
Yeah...- Up:2 Down:1
The irony is, these same rules applied in America up to about 1970.
And America had the best public schools in the world.
50 years of liberals/progressives in control have destroyed this superior school system. - Up:22 Down:2
而50年来自由派 / 进步派的控制，摧毁了这个优越的学校系统。
Oh its more than that. Not even talking about China, Korea, and Japan that are at the extremes, just looking at any European educational system you'll find massive differences.
1) The coursework is standardized. None of this "teacher built course" BS.
2) Every year, the students take standardized tests, and the teacher is graded based on performance. The grading is public, so any parent can look up the teachers stats from prior years.
3) School starts at 8am and goes until 5pm.
4) From middle school onwards, students are expected to take English, Chem, Bio, Physics, and Math every week, every semester. There is no such thing as a 'free-period'. - Up:7 Down:0
There are affirmative action points in China though. Minorities and students from poorer regions effectively get extra university admission points. - Up: Down:1
China. Average IQ 10 pts above whites, even more above blacks and Hispanics. You can't fix stupid. - Up: Down:0
This is simple enough: the Chinese don't have any "niggers" -- and very, very few blacks at all.
In America, blacks have long constituted about 12% of the population, but, thanks to various forms of reproductive subsidies, i.e. "welfare" (paid only to impoverished parents of children under 18), that portion has grown to 15%. Meanwhile, the portion of Hispanics has risen from 12% to 20%, with fully TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT OF ALL CHILDREN coming from families that do not speak English at home. That means that now fully 51% of our schoolchildren come from backgrounds associated with intellectual disability and parental ignorance. You can put lipstick on a pig, but you can't teach an ape calculus. - Up:23 Down:2
在美国，黑人长期以来占人口的12% ，但由于各种形式的生育补贴，即“福利”(只支付给18岁以下儿童的贫困父母) ，这一比例已增长到15% 。与此同时，西班牙裔的比例从12% 上升到了20% ，25% 的孩子来自不说英语的家庭。 这意味着现在我们的学生中有51% 来自无知的父母。你可以给猪涂口红，但你不能教猴子微积分。
In America you're not even allowed to use the term "mentally retarded" anymore. - Up:4 Down:1
remember when about 20 years ago they asked a japanese priminister why japanese students did much better than american students, he laughed and said "oh that is because the blacks reduce the scores" LOLOLOLOL - Up:21 Down:1
When US scores are stratified by race with Negroes and Hispanics removed the rank catapults into the top 5. - Up:21 Down:2
There are numerous social factors that go into our dismal educational performance but what should not be ignored are the demographic shifts in our school age population. On average whites have a higher IQ than latinos and blacks and as their % of the total school age population shrinks so does academic performance. Our comparison with China is not helped by the fact that north east asians - Chinese, Japanese and Koreans - score somewhat higher on IQ tests than whites anyway. - Up:10 Down:0
Bobzilla. Do not piss him off
China students excel at math, science and reading. U.S. students excel at liberal women studies. Enough said.
What did the 15 year old American say when he failed English? "That's unpossible" - Up:10 Down:0
You forgot to mention that many young people today don't know what gender they are or what toilet to use.
We all know which group is responsible for all this. - Up:10 Down:0
they dont have blacks and beaners though. - Up:10 Down:2
We've become so dumb that we put pictures of Japanese people on an article about China - Up:9 Down:0
The Chinese mind is like a computer. They can process information quickly but they can't invent or think outside the box. Give a Chinaman an idea and he can improve on it, but he needs the idea. The white man is unparalleled in his inventiveness and creativity.
The Americans, the Europeans and other anglo-dominated cultures are still the light of civilization. The seat of individual liberty and culture. I am yet to see that in any of the Asian cultures which seem to excel chiefly in the art of mimickery. - Up:8 Down:10
中国人的思维就像一台电脑。 他们可以快速处理信息，但是他们不能创造或者跳出框架思考。 给中国人一个想法，他可以改进，但他首先需要这个想法。而白人的创造力是无与伦比的。
The Chinese can’t invent? History doesn’t seem to be a strong subject either. Lol. - Up:14 Down:2
lol, the US can't even invent a proper 5G system, so they have to ban Huawei because America is too far behind, and allowing the Chinese gear would put the US makers (like Qualcomm) out of business. Same with Apple, no innovation anymore, they just copy the Chinese/Korean innovation but 12 months later. - Up:2 Down:1
哈哈，美国甚至连一个合适的5G系统都发明不出来，所以他们不得不禁止华为，因为美国太落后了，而允许中国设备进入美国会让美国制造商(比如高通)破产。苹果也一样，不再有创新，他们只是复制了中国 / 韩国的一年前的创新。
In India, computer programmers are rock stars. In China, Calculus is cool and sexy.
Nature or nurture? - Up:7 Down:2
Math is logic.
Logic hasn't been taught in US schools since the 19th century. - Up:7 Down:0
damn ，straight. - Up:1 Down:0
Lets export our "diversity" to China and see how their scores hold up. - Up:7 Down:3
my teacher told me that math is racist - Up:7 Down:0
If you add the black and mexican scores to the Chinese and take just the white kids scores here in the usa we jump them by four grades too! In china being poor means you work harder. And they have a 100% homogneous society. no other races to bring down their scores... - Up:6 Down:1
如果你把黑人和墨西哥人的分数加到中国人的分数里，再来对比美国白人孩子的分数，我们也会比他们更高 在中国，贫穷意味着你工作得更努力。 他们有一个100%平等的社会。 没有其他种族降低他们的分数...
100% true. Chinese schools dont waste teaching time trying to tame black savages who want to rape white girls and boys. - Up:1 Down:0
China has 5G and is already planning 6G technologies -- The US uses 3G and 4G -- China did the right thing to implement their intellectual property (IP) laws because they need to be vigilant about their cutting edge technologies. While the US is wasting their time and money with swine trump the Chinese is creating many many plans and strategies for the future. - Up:6 Down:6
中国拥有5G 技术，并且已经在规划6G 技术，而美国继续使用3G和4G。中国在实施知识产权法方面做得很对，因为他们需要对自己的尖端技术保持警惕。当美国在猪头特朗普身上浪费时间和金钱的时候，中国正在为未来制定许多计划和战略。
Mittens is a god
Look at our president what would you expect from a public that elected this moron? - Up:6 Down:11
The EveryThing Bubble
How Dumb Have We Become? Chinese Students Are 4 Grade Levels Ahead Of US Students In Math
And 12 Grade levels ahead of trump supporters
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Didn't you hear? Here in the USA Math is considered racist because it is a part of White Privilege. No math needed or wanted here...... - Up:5 Down:0
If you took just the white kids scores here in the USA we would do much much better. - Up:5 Down:1
HRH of Aquitaine 2.0
Math? **** most Americans are innumerate. - Up:5 Down:0
I am friends with a family that just moved from Beijing to Japan. Mom was explaining how heavy the school work load is on the kids. All parents and teachers are on Wechat. The teachers will broadcast the names of top scored kids and then chastise the bottom scorers by name. Huge amount of social pressure to perform. - Up:5 Down:0
我有一个朋友，她从北京搬到日本。 她解释孩子们的学业负担有多重。所有的家长和老师都在微信上。 老师们将公布得分最高的学生的名字，然后对得分最低的学生进行严厉惩罚。巨大的社会压力。
It’s no mystery why the schools in China have higher standards that US public schools. In China your position in life starts being determined at the pre-kindergarten age. They have rigorous assessment testing (which includes an assessment of the parents), and lays out the foundation for the child’s entire education path and echelon of schooling. - Up:4 Down:0
You must mean....Chinese 5th graders are 4 grade levels ahead. Since many US Public School High School graduates are stuck around 2nd grade level. - Up:4 Down:0
In China, kids go to kindergarten, then start primary school at age 6 or 7, depending on where they live. Once in primary, about 60% of instruction time is spent on just math and Chinese. When they put that much focus on math starting at such a young age, it's not hard to understand why they excel at it. - Up:3 Down:0
Soviet and Chinese 6th grade math (basic geometry course, to be exact) is easily comparable with American 11 or 12th grade. - Up:3 Down:0
The Chinese may be good at math but their English sucks. - Up:3 Down:2
How's your Putonghua smartass?
Didn't think so.
And last time I checked math was more important that English when it comes to STEM-related fields.
English? Well...that's the provenance of angry, unemployed liberal arts majors. - Up:2 Down:0
"We used to have the best education system in the entire world, but now we have become a nation of drooling idiots that can’t even think straight."
And just like the fast food workers teachers keep crying that they should be paid more. I wonder how much Chinese teachers make? - Up:3 Down:0
my daughter was one of three americans in her phd econ class and she is american japanese. - Up:3 Down:1
Cause chinese have tiger mom. US have Porkmom.
Chinese are encouraged to spank the rotten kids. US put parents in jail. - Up:3 Down:0
This problem has a name: "No child left behind". The Chinese are more like Eskimos in that regard; if you can't keep up with the group, there's a nice ice floe for you to lie down and die on. - Up:3 Down:0
we have employees in US, China, Czech, Italy and Ukraine
20 years ago the American employees were the most knowledgeable and the most initiative
now they are they are dead last at least in knowledge and mddle of the road in initiative
China is first
ukraine and US are probably fighting for the bottom spot - Up:2 Down:0
and now kids, let's learn what 4 is. - Up: Down:0
现在，孩子们，让我们来学习 4 是什么。
China has already won the war without firing a single shot. - Up:2 Down:0
Our public schools no longer educate; they indoctrinate. They are dealing with children from illegals and broken families - the majority in big cities.
Common Core = the dumbing down of America
Not only schools, but families are under attack too.
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Chinese kids work hard at school.
US residents aspire to collecting welfare. They focus on activities geared toward that goal. Like reproducing as early and often as possible. They have day care in HS and college now anyway. - Up:2 Down:0
I'm willing to bet that that tiny minority of gifted American students are also Chinese - Up:8 Down:0
The educational system is a huge problem also here in the UK because the libtards running the public sector schools dumb learning down instead of challenging pupils. To make it even worse most school teachers have a fairly average IQ and not a terribly good education themselves.
However, this is not the whole story. The Chinese are among the national populations with the highest average IQ. Ten IQ points may not sound like much but the functional difference is quite large. Additionally, the average IQ in countries like the US and the UK is falling in absolute terms and the spread is increasing. This is probably mainly caused by immigration from the underdeveloped world. Low-IQ immigrants tend to have larger families than smart people. This pushes the statistic in the wrong direction and undermines an already fragile school system even more. - Up:2 Down:0
Do you know why China sends hundreds of thousand students to the US every year and not afraid of being brainwashed and whitewashed? Don't tell me to steal US technology LOL - Up:2 Down:1
No way! Chinese students are all cheat- Up:2 Down:0
Tragically, like many of the Indians....it's true...
pity for you... - Up:1 Down:1
I'd believe if you say US are better at Meth than Math. Today, they can't even do simple arithmetic without a calculator. - Up: Down:1
Chinese students are American students now aren't they? Every where I look they sure ******* are. - Up:2 Down:0
Nazis are unable to admit that they're genetically inferior to Asians (and Jews). It's survival of the fittest, Bozos. - Up: Down:2
So he uses a pic of a Japanese school girl to illustrate a Chinese problem. - Up:1 Down:0
I did high school math in middle school. Not because i was smart but because other kids were ******* morons - Up:1 Down:0
No surprise there. India achieved this a while back. While kids here are boozing and bangin', their ChIndian counterparts are studying. - Up:1 Down:1
USA, a country run by jews.
Jews dominate culture education and entertainment, politics and business.
Import some people from 3rd world and you achieve such results. - Up:1 Down:0
Even the dumbest Chinese kids who can't get into their university system and get dumped here wind up learning English in a year and smashing American students.
Admittedly, these days the average American "college" student is an awfully low bar to compete against...- Up:1 Down:0
Only 4 grade levels?
Thank you US Department of Education. - Up:1 Down:0
只超过了美国 4 年级？
Education in China is highly competitive which means only the top students are way ahead of Americans. That said, there are still many disparities. Teachers are highly respected in China, unlike the US, where teachers are portrayed as grubby government leaches. Only the best Chinese students are recruited for the teaching profession. In the US, some states are worse than others. California, for example, prefers to hire non-credentialed teachers as they are cheaper and will burn out long before they will ever get a pension. Teachers on H1-B visas from third world countries are popular as well and are usually placed in poorer neighborhood schools where the best teachers are needed, but are driven out by jealous, petty co-workers and incompetent administration. Americans who complain about teachers should demand better and start that process by showing good teachers a little respect. - Up:1 Down:2
中国的教育竞争非常激烈，这意味着只有最优秀的学生才能遥遥领先于美国人。尽管如此，仍然存在许多差异。在中国，教师受到高度尊重，不像美国，在美国，教师被描绘成肮脏的政府垃圾。在中国，只有最优秀的中国学生才能进入教师行业。在美国，有些州比其他州更糟糕。 例如，加利福尼亚州倾向于雇佣没有教师资格的教师，因为他们更便宜，而且在拿到养老金之前就会精疲力竭。持有第三世界国家 H1-B 签证的教师也很受欢迎，他们通常会被安排在较贫穷的社区学校，那里需要最好的教师，但他们会被嫉妒心强、小气的同事和不称职的管理者赶走。那些抱怨老师的美国人应该改变，并从尊重好的老师开始做起。
This was also true 40 years ago. Fellow Chinese engineering student showed me his grade 11 math book from back home which covered the same material we were learning in our first year university pure math course. I was impressed. - Up:1 Down:0
Plenty of great schools in USA just not many in inner cities. - Up: Down:0
The plan worked as it seems...
the dumber the better - Up: Down:0
China is #1 in math.....go into any statistics department in a. large Pharma company where they do medical stats form clinical trials and you will see they are all Chinese.....the US cannot produce enough skilled people in statistics....so they have to buy them in. Perhaps China should accuse the US of people theft, lacking as they do a decent education system for HiTech they steal China's math talent. - Up:2 Down:1
中国在数学上排名第一... 进入任何一家大型制药公司的统计部门，在那里做临床试验的医疗统计的人员，你会发现他们都是中国人... 美国无法培养出足够的熟练的统计人员... 所以他们不得不引进。也许中国应该指责美国人偷窃，因为他们没有一个像样的教育系统，他们偷走了中国的数学人才。
Top educational institutions in the world for any discipline are in the usa. Does that mean the colleges are a sham? America invented all the technology. Even them being so smart what have they invented? It all comes down to ground breaking inventions like Iphone, Facebook, Cloud Computing, Cannabis business models. - Up: Down:0
世界上任何学科的顶尖教育机构都在美国。这是否意味着这些大学是假的？ 美国发明了所有的技术。 即使中国人如此聪明，他们发明了什么？这一切都归结于开创性的发明，如 Iphone，脸书，云计算，大麻商业模式。
???Cannabis business model? - Up: Down:0
while we were being educated, they have been learning. dumb f*cks thought they were playing checkers, while they were playing go - Up: Down:0