I'm a university student that studies here in Sudan, the third largest country in Africa. Let me tell you about just a few of the struggles that I have to endure on a daily basis;
Electricity? What's that? I'm literally typing this post as I'm going through my daily 8 hour power cut. Can you imagine living in a country where it's 41°C (105.8°F) because we're in the Sahara desert and not having electricity for a good portion of your day?
Water? Most houses here get their water pumped to them through a motor which is, yep you guessed it, electric powered. No electricity? No running water too.
Internet? I hope you enjoy stellar speeds of 1 to 2 Mbps (on a good day) because that's what you're getting. Which drops down to about 700 kbps at night because the telecom companies said "our servers can't handle this load."
It barely rains here but oh ho ho when it does, prepare to cancel all your plans for the next few days because a little rain is the perfect excuse for everyone to shut everything down.
So when I see people complain about a something as tiny as bad service from FedEx for example, I really wish that something like that would be my biggest worry. I don't want your sympathy or your pity. I just want you to take a step back and not take what you have for granted.
You forgot to mention that when the little bit of rain comes so many houses get damaged and some are literally gone like they wear never there. And that the people were being killed and nobody gave a single shit about us.
Its really sad to be from a country like this and you have to ask yourself before you sleep "what it" and "where would I go"... And that your life goal is literally to just have a safe place you can go back to.
I hope one day we get to lay our head knowing the the land under us and the walls around us.. Are enough to keep us safe
100% agree as someone from Ethiopia. The United States has a fuck ton of problems but it is not a “third world country with a gucci belt”. In my father’s home they don’t have electricity during the day, and instead have a few solar panels to get power during the night. They have no clue what poverty or third world life means, and just use it whenever something doesn't go right for them... try not being able to use hot or cold water during certain seasons...
These are generally people who have never traveled outside of the US
*people who have never left their city.
Agreed. As an american who has lived in other countries i wanna punch people in the face when they say its third world or say that having to wear a mask is a dictatorship. Stfu seriously. These idiots have no idea what oppression feels like.
Americans don’t realise just how good they have certain things that when the smallest change is made or something different has to be put in place for the good of everyone and not just the few (I.e masks) they feel like all their civil liberties are being trampled on. It’s genuinely disgusting
We’ve had it good for far too long that people take it all for granted.
Its not even just travel, there are just too many people who don't know about the outside world at all. I don't mean to sound stereotypical but I wish people in America would have a better understanding of the world. A few days ago i saw a tweet with like 300k likes unironically saying "OMG THERE'S A COUNTRY CALLED CHILE LMAO WHY IS IT SHAPED THIS WAY???". I'm not even from South America but for some reason this isn't common knowledge? Do Americans not go on vacation often? Or do your schools not teach this?
When I was in India people talked like I was going to be surrounded by hordes of starving beggars. I went to some remote parts of India and some of the big cities. Yes, I saw some serious poverty but I also saw a lot of pretty comfortable people and some upscale places. There is a wide range.
I completely agree. I’ve lived in a second world and first world country and I’ve had it so good my entire life in comparison to the 3rd world. My aunt is a teacher of some sort in Tanzania and I’ve visited her there once, it was an eye opening experience. Of course, there’s massive amounts of wrong happening in America and Europe, but just by quality of life we have it so much better.
Eh.. Second world can often be much worse to third world. Try having a life in smaller towns or villages of Moldova or Ukraine. After a while places like South Africa, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Malaysia, Mexico etc. will start looking like paradise.
My early life (90s) was spent on dirt floor. We had like a couple of diapers so washed same ones and reused them. There was no washing machine, just a huge bowl of water and a washing board, full manual, no dryer, just a wire to hang clothes outside. No indoor toilet, just a chair with a hole and bucket under it outside. We could only dream about air conditioning during hot summer and tried to save logs to stay warm when it was most important during winter. Pretty much all clothes I ever had were from thrift stores. Sometimes we struggled with food. I was beaten up at school so was too afraid to get meal there after kids spilt hot soup on me, preferred to boil pigs lung at home myself on a stove. I got my first smartphone less than 4 years ago (account created on a computer in the local library).
And r/politics are full of little shits which tell me how privileged I am to be white? Fuck them.
Hi - Kosovar here. I can't speak for Ukraine/Moldova but Kosovo is awesome. Kosovo was torn and burned by Serbian forces and paramilitaries. In the last 20 years the country has been rebuilt by scratch and the economy is growing 3.5 - 4% year over year. You're right Kosovo is no Germany, but neither is Louisiana like New York or Tennessee like California. Please don't diss my country. We are a proud country.
Hey, I had no intention of dissing your country - it was just an example of countries that are tend to be forgotten by outsiders as they're not as shiny and "western" as some of the most popular ones in Europe. Sorry if it came off as insulting, that's not what I tried to say, especially given that I'm also from the former Eastern Bloc. I'm glad you guys are doing well.
Honestly I’d much rather live in Tennessee than New York/California
老实说，我宁愿住在田纳西州也不愿住在纽约 / 加利福尼亚州
Yeah second world can be pretty bad, I was lucky. Grew up in a really touristy area of Bulgaria and we moved to America when I was 10
I'm an American who has spent years living in various rural areas across different countries in Africa. I've been through it all. Hauling all my water from a dirty stream 300 meters away, electricity out for days, dirt roads that completely wreck any car that tries to drive on them, corrupt police threatening me with automatic weapons because they want a bribe, malaria and schisto, routine threats to my life by random people because I'm white, 110 Fahrenheit heat with no air conditioning or fan, hijackings in the middle of the road at night.
Americans truly have no idea how lucky they are and how well all the systems run here, and it's infuriating how we will complain over the smallest things that don't really matter. I am not being sarcastic when I say the continent of Africa truly has some beautiful people, culture, and landscapes and I look back on my time there mostly fondly, but most Americans wouldn't even last until the end of the week before they were begging to come back to the comforts of America.
I haven’t traveled outside the US or Europe, but I have been taking time to study other countries, mainly through educational youtube videos. I marvel every day at my running water and air conditioner. I know I’m really really really lucky to live in the US.
I've been to tourist friendly places in Latin America and even there it's often striking how poor and less fortunate their communities are. It's astounding once you go just a few blocks away from the more glamorous spots. It's awful.
My brother is in the marines and he has been to a number of different countries. He has seen some awesome first world places and some hellish 2nd-3rd world places. He came back after his first deployment and said "average Americans don't know how insanely lucky they are..."
I'm from Egypt originally before I moved to the US at age 13. The house I grew up in had no electricity or running water. I'm not religious at all but my family is Christian which in a place like Egypt makes me Christian. We suffered constant discrimination and my father was a political prisoner in an Egyptian jail.
When I was 13 I made it to the US with limited English skills and immediately started working to help with family income even while I was going to school.
In college I had an argument with a black girl who told me I could never comprehend the 400 years of oppression she faced as a black person and my experiences didn't compare.
This is someone who I know came from a middle to upper class family and was on a full ride scholarship despite having pretty mediocre grades and SAT score.
Not that the US doesn't have its issues but some of the loudest people are the most privileged.
Went to Europe for a trip one time and sitting in the hall at a school waiting for a class and I only saw one black teenager. He got called the n word just walking down the hallway. Pretty brutal.
I lived in Russia for a few years. The first 3 apartments I had in Moscow were literally worse than any HUD housing apartments I've seen in the US.
I went to the Philippines once. Can’t imagine living in a shanty town with weather like that. Manila is so fucked.
Even the nice cities like Iloilo still have shanty houses everywhere because concrete cracks in hot, humid weather
After visiting my wife's cousins in the Philippines, it pretty much re-defined the meaning of "poor" to me. There were 4 people living in what amounted to some plywood thrown together in a shanty town area. Yes, not having access to the nicest stuff sucks, but this is probably the best country in the world for being "poor".
By far, no question.
What personally opened my eyes to extreme poverty on this planet was a trip to India. I watched a man in one of the slums of Mumbai who likely had his arms and legs chopped off in one of the northern villages crawl several dozen feet through the five or six inches of human feces in the street, just to get a tiny little cup of some sort of grass soup that was boiled in a makeshift trash can looking object over a small fire where a man was using old clothing as fuel.
I’d seen impoverished areas before such as in Haiti and in parts of Brazil, but witnessing that demolished all of my previous notations about what true poverty meant. It drives me nuts being in the US and seeing people complain about the poverty here. I obviously can’t say that it doesn’t exist in America, but it’s just an entirely different category of poor.
I've never heard someone I knew call the US third world. Almost no one of the general population here does that. We aren't all fucking idiots.
我从来没有听过一个我认识的人称美国为第三世界。 这里几乎没有一个普通人会这么做。 我们不都是白痴。
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We’re at a point where we’ve run out of life threatening problems to fix so we make up our own or elevate very minor ones to national status to be outraged about
Funny how all the social justice outrage went away when people started dying from covid. No one gave a shit about gender rights and other things
On a similar note, there definitely are pockets of America that loosely resemble these Third World conditions, particularly poorer/rural areas.
同样，美国肯定也有一些地区与第三世界国家的情况大致相似，尤其是贫困 / 农村地区。
This is bullshit for one simple reason. We have the technology to make thing FAR better than they are right now. Just because people in Africa have to walk for their water and having rolling blackouts in their power infrastructure does NOT mean that big banks are suddenly no longer laundering money for drug cartels that kill thousands of people each year. It doesn't mean that judges who do not represent the will of 70% of the people are being forced down our throats by the current administration. It does not mean that people aren't being abused by police. It does not mean that our government is letting our infrastructure crumble while giving tax breaks to the wealthiest citizens. It does not mean that people like Eric Prince aren't training foreign adversaries and making millions off of it. It does not mean that senators aren't using insider knowledge to make tens of millions by selling stock right before it crashes.
Just because other people have problems and we get to watch TV does not mean our problems are not valid. The fact is many African countries got fucked over and continue to be fucked over by the same class that is fucking the American public as we speak. Because they have it worse does not excuse the fact that we all should have it better. Let me ask something to you all here. Once you have running water and electricity and internet, what then? Will you be content to ignore the problems Americans face today? If your police kill your neighbors in a no-knock raid that they executed at the wrong address are you simply going to say, "Oh well, we have a good life so it doesn't matter!"
Thank you for summing up everything I was ranting in my head whilst reading this.
It's horrific to think that basic human needs are not met in many countries across the world (and that is also my family experience too just to note that I'm well aware of that experience - war, lack of resources, inflation, no electricity etc.) but that doesn't make other issues irrelevant. If anything, first world fuckery has a lot to answer for in those issues